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Hundreds of graves are now unmarked at Warren Union Cemetery and or the stones are unreadable. Please help Historian Wesley Arnold identify these. Hundreds are children. If you have relatives buried there please contact me at   wecare@macombhistory.us   I want to record your family records of those buried at Warren Union Cemetery while there are still people alive that have records. These will be saved and published in libraries. Do not give them to the Warren Historical Society unless you give a copy to me. That will guarantee that it will be preserved and not disposed of.
  Researchers report there are many unmarked graves.
Hundreds are children with unmarked graves

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According to the Warren Police, WWJ, and Macomb Daily officers of the Warren Historical Society are behind the stealing of at least 5 expensive memorials from Warren Union Cemetery. They do not own the cemetery or the markers, They did this secretly without just cause, without a public hearing, without notification to the membership, police, City Council or even property owners. They robbed Warren's unknown soldier memorial from a grave and they stole a memorial that listed Warren soldiers who are buried there. This was the only memorial showing the names of these soldiers. Nothing was found wrong with these memorials in a meeting held afterward. And they stole the memorial to all veterans and to those who died on attacks on our country and 9-11 (including over 400 policemen and firemen) and they stole another that honors our flag and yet another that honors those many children and pioneers buried there without markers. These memorials were causing no harm. There is lots of room for them. They posed no threat. There is nothing disrespectful or wrong about these memorials. The memorials were there to honor men who died and to educate visitors especially young people who no longer learn about history in school. This grave robbing gang actually has a written plan to steal more markers they do not like without notice and several more markers are now gone including an expensive family's epitaph robbed from a grave.

We veterans who survived wars speak for the soldiers buried there. We veterans went through hell, were wounded, saw friends die, heard the pain filled screams of mortally wounded men, put friends body parts into body bags, accompanied friends caskets home. We served our country with honor and integrity. We feel it is wrong to steal soldiers memorials and especially ones which show soldiers honored service to future generations for whom they fought and died. They at least earned their name on a granite memorial and this grave robbing gang has no right to steal soldiers memorials they don't own out of our cemetery. Now visitors including young people will not be able to see who these soldiers were. Now many of our soldiers have no marker at all because the only one they had was stolen. It appears that the persons who did this are now so ashamed of their actions they are now trying to blame others. This was not an action by the historical society rather just two persons. The membership or public had not been informed and The Village Commission did not vote on this.

Taking property that is not yours is called stealing and when it is worth several thousand dollars it is grand larceny. It has been over a year and they have not returned or replaced them.

Disrespecting our soldiers who were killed or put their lives on the line for our freedom is wrong. Stealing memorials that name our soldiers is worse than disgraceful. They are robbing our history left for our young people who no longer are taught history in school. No one should be allowed to steal memorials they don't own out of a cemetery they don't own. We veterans feel that they have disrespected our soldiers, our flag and those who died on attacks to our country. These memorials were donated without cost to the city possibility by out of town descendents of those buried there.

We veterans are asking that The Warren Village Commission simply acknowledge that these memorials are not a threat to anyone, harm no one, honor our Warren Soldiers many of which are buried in Warren Union Cemetery which has lots of room for them and does so without cost to the city. We also ask that the people who removed them without public notice or the vote of The Village Commission simply return them without cost to the city. This will also avoid costly and ugly legal battles supported by hundreds of veterans over the improper removal (grand larceny) and disrespecting of our soldiers. This simple and cost free action would make The Warren Village Commission heroes to thousands of Warren children, and veterans who look to them to preserve our Warren Village Historical and American Heritage to future generations.

Another way to look at this is that it was a big mistake by these two people. They have the opportunity now to rectify the mistake by returning the memorials. Respect our Warren soldiers and those who died by allowing their names to be seen without cost and honored on these granite stones in their home town Warren Village. This also fulfills the missions of The Warren Historical Commission, the society and Village Commission to preserve our history and educate future generations.

But if they choose to disrespect our soldiers and veterans and those who died defending our freedom and on attacks on our country let it be known that we will mount a campaign against those few disrespectors and there are hundreds of us. And we veterans are not going to allow men and women who died to be disrespected and their history stolen from our local cemetery. Attention attorneys we are looking for attorneys who are willing to help us fight this cause. We are willing to do fund raising to pay you. We are looking for banks or organizations who are willing to accept donations directly to them for this cause. None of us is to accept funds rather they are to go directly to the banks. History will note whether these disrespectors of those who died for our freedom shall be known as the Warren "Hysterical" grave robbing gang, or shall be known as Historical Heroes who preserved our American Heritage, educated future generations and respected our soldiers.



The history of these events.

In 2010 a Memorial to all veterans and those who died on attacks on our country was donated anonymously by families. It urged our young people to be Vigilant and be prepared. We think it filled a need because people forget and many youngsters were too young to remember the events or not born yet. And young people need to know that our country can be and has been attacked more than once. Also we should honor all veterans and those who died in the attacks on our country. Not just people who served in the military. We lost over 400 policemen and firemen on 9-11. Shouldn't there be a remembrance of this for future generations. Well one was donated without cost to the city and there was lots of room for it in this old cemetery. And it was there a long time not hurting anything, doing no harm. And it was doing its job of educating visitors. I saw many parents being children to that spot while I was doing research. Unfortunately the village veterans memorial did not do this job, did not mention all veterans or those who died in attacks on our country and only honored those interred here. Us veterans and those who knew firemen or relatives who died at Pearl Harbor or on 9-11 (including over 400 policemen and firemen) feel the newer memorial was nice but a little shortsighted. Those folks who placed the new one ripped out the old one even though it was in a different place, and that upsets us veterans. What a shameful act.

In 2011 the Village Commission had extra money in its city account and decided it was going to donate a memorial to veterans interred in the cemetery. It was placed in the cemetery with great fanfare, The dedication was June 15, 2011. Old time military band (5th Michigan Regiment Band) playing, mayor speaking and the Warren Police Honor guard.. Tent set up for shelter. Lots of guests and publicity. This brought a lot of attention to this old cemetery. Perhaps partly as a result families donated four memorials to our soldiers and a Children's memorial. The majority of descendants of the early Warren families live out of town and in other states. The families who donated these memorials were probably from out of town and they made the donations anonymously. My guess was this was done to put the emphasis on the message on the memorials rather than on who donated it. It may be noted that they consulted historian Wesley Arnold's big website for the names of the soldiers buried there and other information because that is the only source available and he probably had given them his web site card when they visited the cemetery. Another factor was that the historian had spent many hours in that cemetery doing research taking measurements etc. During the time he was there he stated that several people visited and he gave them a tour and his website card. He also stated he often suggested that a memorial was needed naming our soldiers and he would like to see an unknown soldier memorial and that there were hundreds of children buried there without markers. He tells of one woman visitor who did not live in Warren who may have recently lost a relative who was very interested in the idea of these memorials. It is not polite to ask women for their name and addresses at first meeting so no notation of hers was made.

On about July 14 five memorials were stolen from the cemetery. That evening the theft was discovered by historian Wesley Arnold and Tom Turmel and the police were called. The police refused to come as we could not give them an address for the cemetery as it has no address. Besides the 911 operator probably thought it was a prank call. Who reports stones stolen from a cemetery? So a police report was made late that night. The next morning Wesley was awakened by the Macomb Daily reporter wanting facts on the theft. It was amazing how the reporter could even know about this. It seems they check police reports in search of news to put in the paper. He requested he meet the historian at the cemetery and show him where the 5 stolen stones had been. During this time News 4 showed up with Bora Kim. It was pointed out that $4,000 worth of new beautiful granite markers had been stolen but we could not come up with any reason as nobody steals memorials from a cemetery. They could be resurfaced and sold was the only explanation that seemed logical. WWJ news radio also called the historian and he could only tell them what I knew. Well soon it was on the Radio. When I got home my phone was ringing and it was WWJ who told me that a woman (Sue Keffer) had called and confessed to having the stones removed. I called the Warren police and Lt Beck confirmed that Sue had called them and told them Warren Historical Society had the stones removed and that they knew where they were. The Warren police not knowing what to do just treated this incident as a dispute among historical society members, so no police action was taken.

   Until this happened I was an insider in this group and a very active member. I know that they were very upset about these memorials that they could not take credit for.

And they were particularly upset that the donors of two stones had quoted my research work on the stone which I had published on this website and had given out for free for years. In doing the research I spent many hours at that cemetery met visitors, gave them my website card and may have suggested to them that we should recognize our soldiers and the many children buried there without markers. Evidently some agreed with the idea and beautiful expensive memorials were donated anonymously without cost to the city.

I have and do freely share my research with everyone who wants to see it. My goal has been the same for years which is to preserve our local history for future generations. There is no profit motive. My research is free on this website. In fact I have lost much time and money but that is OK because it meets my goal of preserving our local history for future generations. I am old, my time left here is short, my health is growing worse so preserving our local history is what this humble historian is doing.

There are many unmarked graves in these old cemeteries. Most are children. Hundreds of graves are now unmarked at Warren Union Cemetery and many stones are unreadable. Please help Historian Wesley Arnold identify these. Hundreds are children. If you have relatives buried there please contact me at   wecare@macombhistory.us   I want to record your family records of those buried at Warren Union Cemetery while there are still people alive that have records. These will be saved and published in libraries.
By the way the Warren Historical Society does very little research and they have totally ignored research done by researchers in regard to our soldiers and persons buried at Warren Union Cemetery without markers.

What a disgrace to our city and great disrespect to our soldiers and their families they have demonstrated by their actions of robbing grave stones of our soldiers off of graves. This will serve as a warning to our citizens that this group holds nothing sacred even memorials you place in our cemetery. In fact they have ordained that they have the right to rip out any memorial they do not like without notice. No public hearing. No vote of the membership. No consultation with the mayor or City Council. Just ask them for a copy of the new cemetery rules they have dictated. Read it yourself.
They are now also demanding markers have a 42 inch foundation with 5-6% air entrainment of concrete even for a thin flat marker. This means that the contractor will in some cases be digging into the actual remains of the person buried. Remember this is not a new commercial cemetery this is a pioneer cemetery with lots of babies buried on top of adults and some folks in relatively shallow graves. And their new rules even forbid families to leave a rose or flower at a grave without a container. And they state they will remove it without notice. So if a family lays a rose on a soldiers grave which is now missing the marker this group has ripped out this "hysterical" society may, steal the flower also. This power grabbing and excessive regulation for an old, full cemetery is unnecessary. This is the same group who may have lost valuable records and even got facts on the historic plaque wrong. And who have ignored research about who is buried there.



The memorial to all veterans above honored all veterans and those who died in attacks on our country.(unlike the Village monument which came months later and honors only those who are interred there.) The gang probably felt that the first memorial to all veterans was in competition with their new memorial and they wanted an excuse to get rid of it. But the memorials were quite a ways away from each other so there was no reason why the first one should be removed. It served a good purpose. It pointed out something that our young people are not taught in school. Most of them can't tell you about Pearl Harbor or WWII or even why or who we fought. And many are unaware of events of 9-11( and the killing of over 400 policemen and firemen) they were too young or not born yet. It serves as a reminder that our country has been attacked more than once. It gives a message to our young people to be vigilant and be prepared. This is something they need to know. During the time I was doing research there I saw several families visit. That memorial was doing its job educating them. The newer memorial although a nice stone does not do the job of educating visitors as the older one did because it lacks the words. It does not teach them about attacks on America and it does not honor all veterans only the ones interred here. The old memorial needs to be brought back to do its important job.

Another memorial the gang stole told what ideals our flag stood for which many of our Warren boys gave their lives for. It stated "Our flag stands for liberty justice free speech - press maintain our freedoms..." Many of our brothers and parents died for those ideals but now-days many young people have no idea of what our flag stands for. We veterans feel that these memorials filled a need.

The donor got the names of the soldiers from this website. This was based on research by several historians. Also note this is not a list of buried soldiers, rather a partial list of Warren men who risked their lives or gave their lives for our freedom. Most are buried in this cemetery. All are Warren area boys. Some have no marker anywhere else.



The research is verifiable by public records. This stone also honors a few who may be buried here but were Warren boys who served and the records have been lost as to exactly where they were buried. These Warren boys who served deserve to be honored not forgotten.

Why do we describe them as boys. Well just look at the ages when they were killed. Many of these Warren boys were still in their teens when they gave their lives securing our freedom.

    Don't they deserve at least to have their names on a granite marker in Warren their home town.

    The robber gang also ripped a nice grave stone of the finest polished black granite with only the words UNKNOWN SOLDIER on it. What could be offensive about that? The Detroit Society for Genealogical Research had done a detailed recording of Warren Union Cemetery in 1938 which indicated that there was a soldiers grave marked by a flag in the area where this stone was placed. This historian has been telling people about this for some time. He was probably one of our many several Civil War soldiers whose burial records have been lost. Many of us feel that this soldier should not be forgotten to future generations. The records with soldiers names were destroyed we are told in a flood that destroyed the records in the church basement many years ago.

What does it hurt to honor this soldier by a nice stone that was donated to honor this soldier without cost to our city.

There is lots of room for these memorials. They harm nothing. These memorials posed no threat.
So what right do they have robbing expensive memorials they do not own, donated by families to honor our Warren soldiers, from a cemetery they do not own.

Another soldier disrespected but a black eye for our city and a "hysterical" society which has now become the laughing stock of hundreds of people interested in preserving history.

Come on no one steals other peoples' memorials they don't own from cemeteries they don't own.

  It appears that Warren Union Cemetery is a pioneer cemetery with hundreds of children. Many many stillborn, young baby and child deaths were not even recorded and not marked with an engraved stone. The county death records which show 50% of the registered deaths in Warren were those of children prior to WWI but this is a gross under count as it only represents a small percentage about 6% of actual child deaths. In a research study of the 150 stones indicating a child only a dozen were actually registered with the county. Also most families did not want a stone to remind them of a baby death. There was a stigma about stillborn and day old baby deaths. So families mostly just buried the child quickly and privately.
    Remember the body did not go to a funeral home. The family home was the funeral home. Most people did not want a marker to remember the sickly and often unnamed baby or to blame the mother who was already guilt and grief stricken. There were no local stone cutters and families did not have money for a child stone. In many cases the baby had no name. A look at county death records verifies this. Even today stillborns' graves are virtually not marked.
    The sister cemetery in Center Line had good records and shows that for a thousand adult deaths there would be 1,500 child burials because the burial rate was 1.5-2 for each adult before WWI and 1,500 is in the middle of the range of 1,000-2,000.
    Just looking at the remaining grave stones shows there are around 1000 persons buried at Warren Union Cemetery. That would mean 1,500 children without markers. It appears that only about 10 percent of baby and child deaths were actually registered before WWI.
The mortality rate for children was very high approx 200 per 1000 per annum and many died of conditions we easily treat today.
In those pioneer days large families were the norm and many families had several baby deaths. Diseases like Scarlet fever often killed several children in the same family.
One can barely walk around in that cemetery without walking on children's graves as they were buried on top of adult family burials and in the back of the cemetery. Also there are many adult unmarked graves because the early pioneers piled up a few little stones and felt they did not need a fancy marker. Many felt that the resurrection was coming soon as it states in the Bible and that there would be no need for a marker. Most of the early families did not place engraved markers. And they often not only did not have the money for one but there were no local stone mason in the area. There were no local monument companies or funeral homes.
Just consider even the first families between 18 to 100 families who purchased lots here have very few markers. Most of those that are there were most likely placed much later by descendants.
The Lots were 10x30 providing 20-40 potential burials as babies were allowed above an adult. Shrouds and narrow coffins were common. So there are a few hundred unmarked graves right there.
But the above research is verifiable. That means at the least hundreds of unmarked graves. Many of us feel these children and pioneers at least deserve to be acknowledged and honored with a small memorial. While I was doing research there over many months, I mentioned this to many visitors.

Consider that the cemetery which has 2,600 graves within the current fenced area, (after subtracting ground for aisles and ways) was filled up before WWII as witnessed by families who had to buy plots in other cemeteries farther away. Also many stillborns, pauper burials and even some non residents were buried there without markers especially in the back which was unfenced. (and since has been eroded) Many famous village residents like the Beebes were buried there without markers. Some people with acute psychic senses have told me that they can feel that there are many children there. There was often much suffering and crying involved in a child's dying. And there is other evidence also.

Many of these babies and children died terrible deaths. Whooping cough, scarlet fever, diphtheria, typhoid fever, inflammation of bowels, summer complaint with severe pain. Many feel these children without even a marker should at least be honored. A beautiful memorial was donated in memory of the children and pioneers now without markers. But it was robbed off of a grave by uncaring grave robbers.

Just discovered a follow the money clue. Another possible motivation why this group did this is because they want to sell their book and they want to get the historian's name out of that cemetery because he was quoted on two of the stones. Note this historian has published many books of history on this web site which are free to everyone. Also Wes often gives the 20 volume history of Warren on DVD to people for free. They wanted to get his name out of the cemetery.

Lastly jealousy was also probably a major cause for their action as the memorials they stole exposed their lack of research and stated facts and did things that they should have done. And what really griped them was that families had donated these expensive granite memorials without cost to the city and even did so anonymously. This meant that the hysterical clique could not take the credit for this. They love to take credit. Well here I am giving them full credit for having the expensive Unknown Soldier Memorial, The Memorial listing Our Warren Boys who died, The Flag Memorial, The Memorial to all Soldiers and those who Died in attacks on our Country and the Children's and Pioneer Memorial ripped out of our Cemetery.

For 167 years the tradition has been that families could place a marker in this cemetery without fear of grave vigilantes ripping it out.
There has never been a problem with a marker that was offensive. People are not going to spend thousands of dollars on a stone that two dozen people a year may look at. Why has this gang appointed themselves grave Gods. Some of us think it is a power thing. There is just no justification for ripping memorials they don't own out of a cemetery they don't own. Most of the families of the dead buried here are from out of town. Suppose a family from out of town wanted to place a marker on their family grave. What if this family had stopped at the Methodist church down the road who used to oversee this cemetery when it was active and inquire if it is OK to put a marker on their relative's grave. They may have been told go ahead as they no longer have anything to do with this.
The donors were probably from out of town and don't even know that the memorials have been stolen.

Now families can no longer place a memorial at Warren Union Cemetery in the City of Warren for fear of them being ripped out and disposed of.
The stealing and selling or disposing of the Memorials of our Honored Soldiers was just not right, and is an insult to our soldiers who gave their lives for us and to all of us Veterans.

We veterans are telling other veterans about these disrespectful actions. Many of us lost friends in wars and it is really really upsetting to have soldiers memorials ripped out. Some veterans are just back from combat. Some now have mental conditions. We veterans will keep telling other veterans about these desecrations. Those who do not respect men who died for this country don't deserve to live here. Just respect those who died for our freedom. That is all we are saying.

In 2012 it was discovered that additional memorials had been stolen including a nice memorial Epitaph robbed from a family's grave and others. This has got to be stopped. We are hoping that these folks will realize their mistake and return all of the memorials to where they belong in our cemetery. If they don't our only recourse is to take legal action. But there are a lot of us veterans against this little gang of 5. We know that public opinion is on our side as are hundreds of veterans.

And who are they to dictate to loved ones when they can leave a flower at a grave. And why the push for everything to be in containers. That will only cause pieces of plastic, glass and metal to be spread by the mowers which will be unsightly and potentially dangerous to visitors. I know as I am a caretaker there.

And they have outlawed persons leaving a rose on a gravestone of a loved one. Who are they to dictate against this expression of love by a loved one? And the rose eventually falls to the ground and returns to the earth naturally without causing a problem. The problem is this excessive and unnecessary power grabbing regulation. If my dad gave his life for my country how dare they dictate to me that I can't put a rose on his memorial or at least on the spot where it was because they robbed the memorial from the grave.

And they state they will remove it without notice. So if a family lays a rose on a soldiers grave which is now missing the marker this group has ripped out this "hysterical" society may steal the flower also. This is absolutely absurd and unnecessary. This is not their own private cemetery. We veterans have earned freedom to visit it and at least leave a flower there to our loved ones who died securing that freedom.

Remember in 167 years we have never had a memorial that was so bad it had to be removed. We have no need for self appointed grave dictators. Families in Warren should not have to worry that expensive memorials they put on graves of loved ones may be removed and disposed of by these vigilantes without notice. They have already done this with 6 and maybe more expensive memorials.
And for historians and caretakers who desire to place a name brick naming the person in the grave (whose name has become unreadable or where there is no gravestone) having to excavate a 42 inch deep pit for a foundation for a simple 2 inch brick is not only absurd but risks actually digging into remains of babies or even adults not deeply buried. This is a pioneer cemetery not a new commercial cemetery and there are many shallow graves and babies buried on top of adults. Arrangements of this nature should be left up to the family and undertaker not a gang of 5 looking to control everything historical acting in secret without public notice.

There may already have been one vet who committed suicide and the plundering of these veterans stones certainly did not help and perhaps put him over the edge. Justice can take many forms. Perhaps justice or fate will find a way to punish these criminal grave robbers. Some of our recent veterans want to talk to these robbers. Also some of these recent vets aren't quite right yet in the head. I sure wouldn't want to be those robbers. Personally most of us favor legal action against them.

Well it may be that some families whose memorials were ripped out and at least the veterans will be taking this gang of 5 to court. We know that public opinion is on the side of the families and veterans. And many judges are veterans or their parents were. At this time it is unknown how this disgraceful episode in Warren's history will be resolved.

In closing here is how We veterans feel about this: We veterans who survived wars speak for the soldiers buried there. We veterans went through hell, were wounded, saw friends die, heard the pain filled screams of mortally wounded men, put friends' body parts into body bags, accompanied friends' caskets home. We served our country with honor and integrity. We feel it is wrong to steal soldiers memorials and especially ones which show soldiers honored service to future generations for whom they fought and died. They at least earned their name on a granite memorial and this grave robbing gang has no right to steal soldiers memorials they don't own out of our cemetery. Now visitors including young people will not be able to see who these soldiers were. Now many of our soldiers have no marker at all because the only one they had was stolen by this gang. We want these memorials replaced.

Another issue public safety. The officers of the Warren Historical Society in 2010 neglected to take action on the historian's warning that there were dangerous conditions in the cemetery and need of repairs. (Stones about to fall over that could harm people especially children.) The huge Metro stone had already gone over and that could have killed a child because it was too heavy for a rescuer to lift off of a child. There were also animal holes in several places which Wesley Arnold filled so that people would not sprain an ankle.

St Clement Cemetery

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There are many unmarked graves in these old cemeteries. Most are children.

Other Burial PlacesPioneer Cemeteries    
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Warren's Oldest Cemetery Bulldozed   
Sightings by children and dogs of Indian woman
Homes built on cemetery bodies not removed. Home buyers not told. Human remains used as fill dirt. Kids play with skull in playground Also some of our pioneers moved further north when they heard about better soil in the thumb of Michigan. The humble historian went there and indexed and photographed four cemeteries there. See below. All in Tuscola County of Michigan In area of Fairgrove Brookside Brookside Perkins Perkins Moreland Moreland South of Fairgrove Watrusville Watrusville